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Dromcollogher Fire Tragedy, Piseóga and St Mary’s Listowel

In Listowel Town Square in October 2019

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Remembering a Tragedy 


This story was one I revisited in the book commemorating 100 years of The Irish Examiner.

This is the story as it appeared in the paper in 1926. As I was growing up it was something that was well remembered in folk memory in my part of the country and was spoken of in hushed tones as the greatest tragedy that had happened for a long time.

I wrote about this horror before and below is the link to the story

Dromcollogher Cinema Fire

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Piseóga from Lyreacrompane in  the Dúchas collection



The Schools’ Folklore Collection is a great anthology of old wisdom and superstitions collected by Irish schoolchildren in the 1930s from their elders.

The children of Lyreacrompane set to collecting old piseoga and superstitions. They were very diligent and they collected a huge number of these. Here are the first few. I hope you love the local idiom and colloquialisms of the children e.g. no. 21

Piseóga.

1/5/36 Fuaireas iad so leanas ó Bhorca Ni Dhiolaín, cailín sgoile ais Chlocán-Leiscirt.

1. If you see one magpie in the morning it means to you that you will have bad luck for that day.

2. If you see two magpies it means that you will have good luck for that day.

3. If you see three, it means that you will hear of a marriage during that day.

4. If you see four it means that there is a wake to be held that day.

5. If you see five it means that you will get silver from some friend or find silver lost.

6. If you see six it means that you will get gold lost.

7. If you see seven it means that you will hear a secret that was never told before.

8. If you break a mirror in a house it means that there will be bad luck in that house for seven years.

9. If you spill salt on a table it means bad luck.

10. If you meet a brown haired woman in the morning, it is as well for you to turn home for you will not do your journey that day.

11. If you walk under a ladder it means bad luck.

12. If you open an umbrella in a house it means bad luck.

13. If you find a horse shoe lost on the road you should spit on it and throw it away again and it is supposed to bring you good luck.

14. If you find a rack (a hair comb) or a half-penny lost on the road you should take it and keep it for it is supposed to bring you good luck.

15. If you shake a crane(For hanging pots over an open fire)on a Sunday it is supposed to bring bad luck.

16. If you burn a pack of cards it is supposed to bring bad luck.

17. It is said that you should never give away milk without putting a pinch of salt in it.

18. It is said that if there are three persons with the same Christian name in one house one of them is bound to die.

19. If you meet a hare crossing the road it is a sign of bad luck.

20. It is said that if you cut your nails on a Sunday it is as bad as to eat meat on a Friday.

21. You should never carry a “sup” of milk in a bucket to a well for it is said you will be in want of it after.

22. If you hear a cock crowing at night it is the sign of a death.

23. If you hear dogs crying that is the sign of a death.

24. It is said that you should never interfere with a fort.

25. If you hear a bell in your ear it is the sign of a death.

26. If you see a star falling it is the sign of a soul going to heaven

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The Main Altar in St. Mary’s




St. Mary’s Listowel has some beautiful mosaics and stained glass.

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Don’t Forget


Saturday next,  October 19 2019, in St. John’s in The Square at 7.30 I will be launching my new book. Elaine Kinsella of Radio Kerry is the special guest and there will be music and readings. 

Dromcollogher 1926, Preparing for The Races 2016

Some signs that Race Week is upon us







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Wedding at St. Mary’s 

Look at this novel use of old milk churns at a local wedding in St. Mary’s Listowel recently.

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Dromcollogher Burning Remembered



“It was your typical rural Irish
village of the 1920s, everyone knew each other, and the big city media would
not have paid much attention to the daily events there. They wouldn’t have been
considered important enough.

But all that changed on Sunday,
September 5, 1926 in the west Limerick village of Dromcollogher.

The day started like every other
Sunday in the town with it’s residents readying themselves for Sunday Mass at
the local church.

A hundred or so yards away from the
church, at a local hardware store, Patrick Downing, a movie projector operator,
had travelled up from Cork to meet local hackney driver, William
“Baby” Forde, to partake in a little scheme to make a few pound
between them.

Forde had hired the upstairs loft
of the hardware store from Patrick Brennan, where they had planned to set up a
temporary cinema. Two trial runs at the location were a success, and this was
going to be the first time that they would charge an admission fee to see the
showing.

Forde had realised that there were
no movie showings in Cork on a Sunday, so he and Downing hatched a plan to
bring films from the Assembly Rooms Theatre on Sunday morning, and have them
back in Cork again by Monday morning. That way the theatre owners in Cork would
be none-the-wiser about the fact that their film reels had been missing on the
Sunday.

To show films privately was against
the law, so to hide the fact that he was doing this, Downing took the movie
reels out of their protective metal cases and placed them in a Gladstone bag
for transport to Dromcollogher. The metal cases would still be in Cork, giving
the impression that the films were where they were supposed to be.

The projector was set up on a table
infront of the only exit to the loft and the reels were placed beside it. There
were also two candles placed on the table to give light to them while they
checked both the money people were going to be paying and to read the reels as
they were being loaded into the projector to be shown. The candles were not
placed in holders, but they were held in place by hardened candle wax. The
showing was scheduled to begin at 2100 hrs so as to allow people to attend
Benediction at the church.

Locals then made their way from the
church to the hardware store and climbed the rickety outside stairs to the loft
and take their places in time for the screening. It was not long before there
were two hundred people packed into the tiny room.

The first of the two films, a short
movie called, “The Decoy,” was shown without incident. By this time,
one of the two candles on the table had burnt out. One candle remained alight.

Things turned for the worst after
the second film “The False Alarm” began.

There are many different
suggestions as to how the remaining candle was knocked over. Some say that
young boys in the room were throwing their caps at it in an effort to
extinguish it, in the hopes that they could make off with the takings without
being seen, however this story has not been confirmed. What is known is that
the candle did fall over onto a reel of naked film which exploded into flames.
A former Brittish Army officer and local Garda, Sergent Long was reported to
have noticed this and got up to kick the film off the table, but another man
got to it first and started using his cap to beat the flames, fanning them and
causing the table and the film to be engulfed in fire. A panic ensued and
Sergent Long was carried out of the room by the fleeing crowd.

Another Garda, Gda Davis, who was
also present, tried to demonstrate to the others that if they jumped through
the flames, they would be able to escape. Many people followed his advice and
escaped through the entrance. However, many people felt safer going to the
opposite end of the loft to the fire.

At this end of the loft, there were
two windows, which were barred. But because the loft had previously been used
for clandestine IRA meetings during the War of Independence, one of the windows
had the bars partially cut to facilitate a speedy escape in the event of an RIC
raid.

One former IRA member, John Gleeson
knew this and broke the bars allowing more people to escape. But with the heat,
the remaining bars began to expand and one woman was jammed between them,
cutting off this escape route.

Not long after this, the loft floor
collapsed onto the hardware store room, which contained things like wood, glass
and five gallon tanks of petrol.

August 1926 had been a dry month in
the region. The two wells in the town were dry and the level of water in the
nearby river was insufficient to help those trying to put the fire out. The
nearest fire brigade was in Limerick.

The building was completely
englulfed within a half an hour of the fire starting, and it was all over
within an hour. By this time 46 people had died. Two more were to die later in
hospital from their injuries. Only 21 of those who died were identifiable, and
the only way to know the identities of the other 27 was to find out who did not
come home that night. Of the 20 children present, 15 lost their lives. Half of
the people who had perished were below the age of 25.

Gardai came from Newcastle West and
sealed off the area. The army were also called in to help coffin the dead. So
many were dead that they hadn’t enough coffins. Special permission was sought,
and granted to bury the dead in a mass grave on the grounds of the Church. All
but one of the victims are buried there

“The Burning” as it
became to be known, was rarely spoken of in the area by the people of
Dromcolloghar.

The three men at the centre of the
whole affair, those being Brennan, Downing and Forde, were all charged with
manslaughter at the Central Criminal Court, but were acquitted. Forde later
emigrated to Austrailia where he was reported to have died after he replaced
flour with stricnine when baking bread during a rabbit hunting trip.

The tragedy made international
news, however some articles were not as kind to the people of Dromcolloghar as
they should have been, notably this one from the September 20 1926 edition of
US magazine, TIME: “One William Ford, storekeeper in the
village of Drumcollogher, County Limerick, welcomed to the musty loft of his
barn last week a crowd of eager Irish peasants who climbed up the single
rickety ladder, sat down in rapt expectance of Drumcollogher’s first cinema
show, a drama called The Decoy….”

(I took the above account of this awful tragedy from Boards.ie where the author is given as Billy the Squid.)

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Tralee


From Historical Tralee and Surrounding areas

From the Heuston collection . Taken back in the day . The junction between High Street, Staughtons Row and Bridge street (by the Garda station )

Dromcollogher fire 1926, Maurice Stack and Eamonn Keane remembered

I came across this photo recently. It was posted by O’Brien’s Bar on their Facebook page. The photo was taken in Dromcollogher, Co. Limerick in Sept 1926 on the day after that village’s darkest hour. The photo prompted me to look up an account of the fire and I found this following account on Boards.ie.

It was your typical rural
Irish village of the 1920s, everyone knew each other, and the big city media
would not have paid much attention to the daily events there. They wouldn’t
have been considered important enough.

But all that changed on
Sunday, September 5, 1926 in the west Limerick village of Dromcologher.

The day started like every
other Sunday in the town with it’s residents readying themselves for Sunday
Mass at the local church.

A hundred or so yards away from
the church, at a local hardware store, Patrick Downing, a movie projector
operator, had travelled up from Cork to meet local hackney driver, William
“Baby” Forde, to partake in a little scheme to make a few pound
between them.

Forde had hired the upstairs
loft of the hardware store from Patrick Brennan, where they had planned to set
up a temporary cinema. Two trial runs at the location were a success, and this
was going to be the first time that they would charge an admission fee to see
the showing.

Forde had realised that there
were no movie showings in Cork on a Sunday, so he and Downing hatched a plan to
bring films from the Assembly Rooms Theatre on Sunday morning, and have them
back in Cork again by Monday morning. That way the theatre owners in Cork would
be none-the-wiser about the fact that their film reels had been missing on the
Sunday.

To show films privately was
against the law, so to hide the fact that he was doing this, Downing took the
movie reels out of their protective metal cases and placed them in a Gladstone
bag for transport to Dromcollogher. The metal cases would still be in Cork,
giving the impression that the films were where they were supposed to be.

The projector was set up on a
table in front of the only exit to the loft and the reels were placed beside
it. There were also two candles placed on the table to give light to them while
they checked both the money people were going to be paying and to read the
reels as they were being loaded into the projector to be shown. The candles
were not placed in holders, but they were held in place by hardened candle wax.
The showing was scheduled to begin at 9.00p.m. so as to allow people to attend
Benediction at the church.

Locals then made their way
from the church to the hardware store and climbed the rickety outside stairs to
the loft and take their places in time for the screening. It was not long
before there were two hundred people packed into the tiny room.

The first of the two films, a
short movie called, “The Decoy,” was shown without incident. By this
time, one of the two candles on the table had burnt out. One candle remained
alight.

Things turned for the worst
after the second film “The False Alarm” began.

There are many different
suggestions as to how the remaining candle was knocked over. Some say that
young boys in the room were throwing their caps at it in an effort to
extinguish it, in the hopes that they could make off with the takings without
being seen. However this story has not been confirmed. What is known is that the
candle did fall over onto a reel of naked film which exploded into flames. A
former Brittish Army officer and local Garda, Sergeant Long was reported to
have noticed this and got up to kick the film off the table, but another man
got to it first and started using his cap to beat the flames, fanning them and
causing the table and the film to be engulfed in fire. A panic ensued and Sergeant
Long was carried out of the room by the fleeing crowd.

Another Garda, Garda Davis,
who was also present, tried to demonstrate to the others that if they jumped
through the flames, they would be able to escape. Many people followed his
advice and escaped through the entrance. However, many people felt safer going
to the opposite end of the loft to the fire.

At this end of the loft,
there were two windows, which were barred. But because the loft had previously
been used for clandestine IRA meetings during the War of Independence, one of
the windows had the bars partially cut to facilitate a speedy escape in the
event of an RIC raid.

One former IRA member, John
Gleeson knew this and broke the bars allowing more people to escape. But with
the heat, the remaining bars began to expand and one woman was jammed between
them, cutting off this escape route.

Not long after this, the loft
floor collapsed onto the hardware store room, which contained things like wood,
glass and five gallon tanks of petrol.

August 1926 had been a dry
month in the region. The two wells in the town were dry and the level of water
in the nearby river was insufficient to help those trying to put the fire out.
The nearest fire brigade was in Limerick.

The building was completely
engulfed within a half an hour of the fire starting, and it was all over within
an hour. By this time 46 people had died. Two more were to die later in
hospital from their injuries. Only 21 of those who died were identifiable, and
the only way to know the identities of the other 27 was to find out who did not
come home that night. Of the 20 children present, 15 lost their lives. Half of
the people who had perished were under the age of 25.

Gardai came from Newcastle
West and sealed off the area. The army were also called in to help coffin the
dead. So many were dead that they hadn’t enough coffins. Special permission was
sought, and granted to bury the dead in a mass grave on the grounds of the
Church. All but one of the victims are buried there.

“The Burning” as it
became to be known, was rarely spoken of in the area by the people of
Dromcolloghar.

The three men at the centre
of the whole affair, those being Brennan, Downing and Forde, were all charged
with manslaughter at the Central Criminal Court, but were acquitted. Forde
later emigrated to Austrailia where he was reported to have died after he
replaced flour with stricnine when baking bread during a rabbit hunting trip.

The tragedy made
international news, however some articles were not as kind to the people of
Dromcolloghar as they should have been, notably this one from the September 20
1926 edition of US magazine, TIME:

Quote:

“One William Ford,
storekeeper in the village of Drumcollogher, County Limerick, welcomed to the
musty loft of his barn last week a crowd of eager Irish peasants who climbed up
the single rickety ladder, sat down in rapt expectance of Drumcollogher’s first
cinema show, a drama called The Decoy.”

Today, a large celtic cross
on the grounds of the church and at the head of the mass grace contains the
names and ages of those who lost their lives in “The Burning.”

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In St. Michael’s graveyard




I spotted this WW1 grave in the graveyard recently. Do we know his story?

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Eric Luke’s photo of Shane McGowan and Ronnie Drew, two giants of Irish music.

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Remember these?

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+ Obituary to the late Maurice Stack and Eamonn Keane+

(Obituary from Boards.ie)

DEATH took place on 24th July 2014 of Maurice Stack, Woodbrook, Cahirdown, Listowel and formerly Moyessa, Listowel. Survived by his sons Billy and Stephen, daughters Maria, Cora and Margaret, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, son-in-law, daughters-in-law, grandchildren, nephews, nieces. Requiem Mass for Maurice Stack was celebrated on Sunday 27th July in St. Michael’s College, burial afterwards in St. Michael’s Cemetery, Listowel. Maurice was one of the oldest surviving students of St Michael’s College. His parents were Willie Stack and Mary Keane of Moyessa. Maurice was a local Agricultural adviser and had many stories from his school days and knew the background of most of the local political activists.

Eamonn Keane was a great friend of Maurice. They agreed on almost everything. When Maurice Stack entered Arus Mhuire, Eamonn was his right-hand man and the sudden death of his close friend in July 2011 came as  a great shock to Maurice.

Eamonn Keane died suddenly on June 17th 2011. He lived at Kylbeg, Greenville, Listowel. Eamonn was survived by his wife Margaret, sons, daughters, brothers and sisters. Following Requiem Mass at St. Mary’s Church, Listowel on Monday 20th June 2011. Eamonn Keane was laid to rest at John Paul II Cemetery, Listowel. Eamonn worked at Teagasc and was well known in the locality, he was very interested in politics and was always at the count centre.

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Yesterday at the Lartigue Monorail Museum




photos from Kerry Echo

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